{"id":29028,"date":"2023-03-06T08:03:07","date_gmt":"2023-03-06T16:03:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/lelandhale.com\/butcherbaker\/wordpress\/?p=29028"},"modified":"2023-03-09T09:09:56","modified_gmt":"2023-03-09T17:09:56","slug":"the-trooper-interview-pt-one","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lelandhale.com\/butcherbaker\/wordpress\/2023\/03\/06\/the-trooper-interview-pt-one\/","title":{"rendered":"The Trooper Interview, Pt. One"},"content":{"rendered":"\n

Interview<\/strong>: Sgt. Glenn Flothe, Alaska State Trooper, Part One, Side A
Subject<\/strong>: Robert C. Hansen Investigation, Arrest & Sentencing
Tape Date<\/strong>: May 1984<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Background: By the time Robert C. Hansen was arrested in late 1983, authorities had a list of eight missing women. All of them dancers or sex workers in Anchorage, Alaska. The turning point, for those unfamiliar with this story, was the escape of a 17-year-old sex worker<\/a>. Hansen confessed in February 1984 and was sentenced to 461 years plus life in jail. Even then, it was not over. As part of his sentence, Hansen agreed to take Troopers to the gravesites of his victims.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

My interview with the then Trooper Sergeant took place after Hansen’s confession and sentencing in early 1984. Glenn is an easy talker, so there are only a few spots where I needed to prompt him. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Something To Extinguish<\/h3>\n\n\n\n

We started by talking about Hansen’s 1981 arson conviction in Pocahontas, Iowa. “There was something in his life that he wanted to extinguish,” Flothe told me. “I think he felt he wanted to take what he couldn\u2019t have when he was younger,” he added.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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He wanted to take what he felt he had a right to \u2013- and that was women.<\/p>\nTrooper Sgt. Glenn Flothe<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

“So in a way, I think it was getting back at women. I think it\u2019s a general hate for women — but back then, initially, it was hate coupled with sexual desire. I think as he went on, I think his sexual desire lessened and in fact disappeared.” <\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Sex or Power?<\/h3>\n\n\n\n

As the interview progressed, the trooper sergeant amplified his initial thoughts. A truism about sexual assault soon emerged. It’s not about sex. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

“I think it was just — he was wanting to take what was his \u2013 what he felt was his,” Flothe insisted. “[I] don\u2019t think his initial exploits were simply to take them out and kill them. He wanted to dominate them, he wanted to use them, he wanted to feel power around them.” <\/p>\n\n\n\n

There was also something more insidious. A man’s imaginary friends. Only, of course, they weren’t his friends. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201cHe had fantasies of relationships that really didn\u2019t exist,” Flothe told me. “Like when he kidnapped that gal, he thought [it was a] she liked him<\/em> type thing and \u2018if you\u2019ll only come with me I\u2019ll make love to you.\u2019 It\u2019s like the sheik that rides out on a stallion in the desert, snatches up some screaming woman out of a camp, drags her back to his hut, has sex with her and now they\u2019re in love forever.”<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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A<\/strong> Weak Man’s Equalizer<\/strong><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

\u201cThat\u2019s the type of thinking that went through his head. \u2018If I could just prove my greatness, she\u2019ll like me,’ he continued. “But the trouble is he\u2019s gotta snatch them and hold them and secure them and chain them in order to attract \u2013 to gain their attention.”<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Couldn’t Stop<\/h3>\n\n\n\n

Sgt. Flothe readily admitted to the inherent complexities involved in explaining a Robert Hansen. For one, what Hansen started was not what he became. There was an evolution in his thinking and in his approach. And yet… There was something fundamental to his madness.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Like an animal that\u2019s tasted blood, he couldn’t stop.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

“It was simply the hate and the thrill of the chase,” Flothe insisted, “the hunt and the capture and the kill. Simple as that. And he was like an animal that\u2019s tasted blood. He couldn\u2019t stop.”<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Copyright Leland E. Hale (2023). All rights reserved.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Purchase Butcher, Baker<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Order my latest book, “What Happened In Craig<\/strong>,” HERE<\/strong><\/a> and HERE<\/a><\/strong>. True crime from Epicenter Press about Alaska\u2019s Worst Unsolved Mass Murder.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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