{"id":9477,"date":"2017-09-18T19:10:36","date_gmt":"2017-09-18T19:10:36","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/butcherbaker.net\/wordpress\/?p=9477"},"modified":"2020-09-22T20:07:00","modified_gmt":"2020-09-22T20:07:00","slug":"hansens-victims-south-seward","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lelandhale.com\/butcherbaker\/wordpress\/2017\/09\/18\/hansens-victims-south-seward\/","title":{"rendered":"Hansen&#039;s Victims: Discrepancies South of Seward"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The accounting for Hansen victims south of Anchorage, in Seward, takes us into the land of discrepancies. Sgt. Flothe&#8217;s version of Robert Hansen&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/butcherbaker.net\/images\/hansen-case-victim-matrix.png\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">victim matrix<\/a> lists four victims in the waters off Seward: three in &#8220;Seward Bay,&#8221; which technically does not exist, and a fourth in Resurrection Bay, which is the actual name of the bay from its entrance near Sunny Cove, all the way up to its headwaters.<\/p>\n<p>Robert Hansen&#8217;s original map, however, shows only <em>three<\/em> victims in those same\u00a0waters. And the body that Flothe&#8217;s <strong><em>victim matrix<\/em><\/strong> has as Resurrection Bay (<strong>#23<\/strong>) is shown on Flothe&#8217;s <strong><em>map<\/em><\/strong> as north of Seward, near Woodrow and Bear Lake. A close-up rendering of the Woodward mark on Hansen&#8217;s map puts that location in doubt &#8212; clearly the &#8220;mark,&#8221; if there is one, is quite faint compared to nearby marks, including <strong>#17<\/strong>, for Joanna Messina.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Indeed, the mark at Joanna Messina is the one mark both versions of the victim matrix hold in common, in terms of description and precise location. [We show Joanna Messina,\u00a0a second time,\u00a0to provide context]<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>What are we to make of these discrepancies? Robert Hansen&#8217;s map is authoritative here. Sgt. Flothe apparently mislabled his victim matrix, putting four victims in Resurrection Bay when clearly there are only three.<br \/>\nAnd the mark near Woodrow? That one is in the questionable column, if only because it is not clearly marked on Hansen&#8217;s original map. There is also the problem that this mark is inland, and not in Resurrection Bay, as indicated by Flothe&#8217;s <a href=\"https:\/\/lelandhale.com\/butcherbaker\/images\/hansen-case-victim-matrix.png\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">victim matrix<\/a>. (1)<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/lelandhale.com\/butcherbaker\/images\/hansen-map-seward-bay.png\" alt=\"Seward: Flothe's Map\" \/><br \/>\n<strong>Flothe&#8217;s Map, South to Seward<\/strong>\u00a0showing FIVE marks (courtesy Alaska State Troopers)<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/lelandhale.com\/butcherbaker\/images\/hansen_original_map_seward.png\" alt=\"Seward: south to Seward Bay\" \/><\/p>\n<p><strong>Hansen&#8217;s Map, South to Seward<\/strong> showing four\u00a0<em>unambiguous<\/em> marks, NOT five\u00a0(courtesy Alaska Public Defender)<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/lelandhale.com\/butcherbaker\/images\/seward-resurrection-bay.png\" alt=\"Seward: Resurrection Bay\" \/><br \/>\n<strong>Seward &amp; Resurrection Bay<\/strong> (Apple Maps)<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/lelandhale.com\/butcherbaker\/images\/woodrow-seward-map.png\" alt=\"Seward: Woodrow\" \/><br \/>\n<strong>Woodrow, Alaska<\/strong> (Apple Maps)<\/p>\n<h1>Known &amp; Possible Victims<\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li style=\"list-style-type: none;\">\n<ul>\n<li style=\"list-style-type: none;\">\n<ul>\n<li><strong>#17<\/strong> &#8212; Joanna Messina (Gravel Pit, near the South Fork of the Snow River; Courtesy Alaska State Troopers)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<blockquote style=\"margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;\"><p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/lelandhale.com\/butcherbaker\/images\/joanne_messina_clr_format.png\" alt=\"Seward: Joanna Messina\" \/><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<ul>\n<li style=\"list-style-type: none;\">\n<ul>\n<li><strong>#20<\/strong> &#8212; Unknown, possible <a href=\"https:\/\/lelandhale.com\/butcherbaker\/wordpress\/denied-by-hansen-pt-1-megan-emerick\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Megan Emerick<\/a> (Resurrection\u00a0Bay, on map, denied; Courtesy Alaska State Troopers)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<blockquote style=\"margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;\"><p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/lelandhale.com\/butcherbaker\/images\/megan_emerick.png\" alt=\"Seward: Megan Emerick\" \/><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<ul>\n<li style=\"list-style-type: none;\">\n<ul>\n<li><strong>#21<\/strong> &#8212; Unknown, possible <a href=\"https:\/\/lelandhale.com\/butcherbaker\/wordpress\/denied-by-hansen-pt-2-mary-thill\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Mary Thill<\/a> (Resurrection\u00a0Bay, on map, denied; Courtesy Alaska State Troopers)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<blockquote style=\"margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;\"><p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/lelandhale.com\/butcherbaker\/images\/mary_thill.png\" alt=\"Seward: Mary Thill\" \/><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<ul>\n<li style=\"list-style-type: none;\">\n<ul>\n<li><strong>#22<\/strong> &#8212; Unknown (CORRECTED: Resurrection Bay, on map, denied)<\/li>\n<li><strong>#23<\/strong> &#8212; Unknown (CORRECTED: Near Woodrow; faint mark on map? Possible victim? Questionable.)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<blockquote style=\"margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;\"><p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/lelandhale.com\/butcherbaker\/images\/hansen-original-map-woodrow-close.png\" alt=\"Seward: Woodrow\" \/><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote style=\"margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;\"><p><strong>Hansen&#8217;s Original Map<\/strong> Woodrow closeup; mark for Joanna Messina (#17) is due north (courtesy Alaska Public Defender)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<hr \/>\n<p>(1) The source of the problem here is that, when &#8220;Butcher, Baker&#8221; was published, Hansen&#8217;s original map was not available to the authors. That map did not become available until 2012, courtesy of the Alaska Public Defender&#8217;s office. <del>I did not notice the discrepancies until I started this blog entry<\/del>. <em>Mea Culpa<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>CORRECTION:\u00a0I wrote about this in 2012, when I was contacted by the Alaska Public Defender&#8217;s office and Bruce Day pointed out the discrepancy between the <a href=\"https:\/\/lelandhale.com\/butcherbaker\/wordpress\/a-tale-of-two-maps\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">two maps<\/a>.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>Purchase <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Butcher-Baker-Account-Alaskan-Serial-ebook\/dp\/B01M1P41GS\/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1479575511&amp;sr=8-2&amp;keywords=butcher+baker+book\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Butcher, Baker<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The accounting for Hansen victims south of Anchorage, in Seward, takes us into the land of discrepancies. Sgt. 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