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When Sgts Galyan and Flothe brought Robert Hansen in for questioning, they had more than a plan. They’d gone through every case file they could find. Pulled maps of the Knik River area. Annotated them with marks showing where they’d found bodies. Posted photos of women known to be missing or dead. Laid out interview documents, pointing to known associates. Part of that came from the advice of FBI specialists on how to deal with a serial killer. The message was simple: Robert Hansen has to be confronted with the totality of his deeds. That totality must overwhelm him.
Confronted: Setting the Scene
Galyan and Flothe didn’t start confronting Hansen from jump. Instead, they placed him in the room. Waited for him to take it all in. You can call it a “passive-aggressive” style confrontation. Make ’em wait for what’s coming next.
Glenn Flothe: “In the room we had his note files – files with his associates written on it, and it just happened to be open to a page where there’s his wife’s picture – written across it is ‘Darla Hansen’ and a computer print-out of all the information.
Confronted.
Glenn Flothe: “Next to that is his alibi witness, that happens to be partially opened next to that. And the alibi witness’ name and his photograph, right? Up on the wall – I’ve got a complete map of the Knik River area and… circled around the entire area – around where the two bodies were found – I’ve got a red circle – so you can’t miss it. And Darrell points to the perimeter of the circle and it says in letters, ‘Hansen identified in this area.'”
Confronted again.
Victim Photos
Although it would later turn out that Robert Hansen did not recognize any of them — they were objects, not living, breathing human beings — Galyan and Flothe also put down 8 x 10 glossies of every possible victim they could find.
Glenn Flothe: “So when he comes in and sits down at the desk – I mean over in the corner where he’s sitting in the room – you know he’s looking around, you know he’s looking at things – but we ain’t telling him nuthin’. So, as far as what we know – you’re surrounded, and we know you’re the guy.”
Yep, confronted.
Confronted: Susan Heppeard
We mentioned Susan Heppeard in our last post, but there’s considerably more detail flowing from that particular encounter. It’s a peek into Hansen’s dirty mind. In his Galyan-Flothe interview, we start to see the first glimpse of what I’ve previously called his “whore-Madonna” complex. In this mental construction, women can only be one of two things. And, somehow, Susan Heppeard confounded those two things. At least in Hansen’s beggarly brain. Here he is, talking to Daryl Galyan about the first time he encountered her:
Robert Hansen: Uh, on the first time I seen her it was downtown and, uh, I had, uh, I guess had an attraction to her and, uh, uh… she got in her car and was going to drive home and I, uh, I uh, wanted to talk to her and, uh, I… I got in my car and I followed her home, out to Spenard where she lives.
And uh, she pulled into her driveway there and right away and went up into her, uh, apartment and before I could even, you know, I wasn’t that close to her, but I got there just time to see her go up to the floor… she lived up the on the third flight of stairs… third floor of the apartment and, uh, I seen her walk up in there and I seen her go in her apartment and, uh, (inaudible) I sure would like to talk to her.
She came to… to the door, uh, and whether she was just getting ready for, uh, to get in the shower or just to put on night… nightgown or whatever, uh, she was nude but she had a big, in fact, I can’t remember now if it was a big towel or robe or something she was holding in front of her just like this here, uh…
And… and I talked to her and so forth there, she you know, just stood there talking to me a lot like… like this here. I guess this sort of blew… uh, blew my mind that this girl would stand there… in front of me there with no… no clothes on just holding a little towel in front of her.
And, uh, this is where I more or less, uh, uh, you know, you would expect something like that out of… uh, a girl that you would see in a bar dancing topless or whatever or something, but this here was not that type of girl in any way shape or form.
Daryl Galyan: A decent girl shouldn’t do that.
Robert Hansen: No.
Robert Hansen, Galyan – Flothe interview, October 27, 1983
Busted
In the Heppeard case, Hansen was arrested and released on Personal Recognizance. Only weeks later he was at it again, this time with a young hooker whom he kidnapped and transported south to the Kenai Peninsula, where he raped and threatened to kill her. But that’s a story for another segment.
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